The Final Episode ***SPOILERS***

[Marian]

Ok, this is for discussing/ranting/crying about the last episode in this series.

O.M.G

Killing off all the characters? WTF is that all about? I knew Jonas was leaving, but the loss of Gisborne and Allan, along with Will leaving last episode, means that all my favourite good looking characters have gone. Also, no Marian. I loved the ending of this episode - though it made me cry - with Marian coming back for him, but it would have been more effective if he hadn't been whoring around with Isabella and Kate in the few months since she'd died.

*rant temporarily over* lol Twas an amazing episode (although I though quite a lot of the special effects looked fake!) but now I'm sad

[Isabella]

I agree! WHY would Marian forgive Robin when he was being such an utter cad with Isabella and Kate? She was perfectly fine with him getting off with every woman in Locksley, but in series 1 and 2 he was really possessive of her whenever anything happened with her and Guy.
Also, the characters who appear in the original legends of Robin Hood (I know there are many, but the following characters are in at least one of them): Will Scarlett, Sir Guy of Gisborne, the Sheriff of Nottingham, Allan A Dale, Maid Marian and Robin Hood. ALL of these characters are dead now, apart from Will, who is out of the series! Now the show is completely different - they might as well write a new story and not bother calling it 'Robin Hood' any more!
And now the ENTIRE town of Nottingham has been destroyed (and everyone was cheering about it though why I have no idea) so what are they going to do? Move location or something?
Can I also add, I loved Isabella's gothic look in this episode - that black dress worked so well for her 'evil' persona.

[Marian]

That's my problem - the ending would have been completely PERFECT if he'd actually grieved for her at all during the series. Gah! Still, sweet ending, and I'm glad they brought Marian back otherwise I'd be even more annoyed. But STILL! Who is left from the original legends - Tuck, Much, LJ. They can't still call it Robin Hood!!

If Sheriff Vasey survived that then he must be superhuman. He must also be dead. Grrr - everyone dying!

I loved the dress on Isabella too!

[Isabella]

If Vasey is alive still, I believe I may turn to violence. How many times have we thought a character is dead, only to find them popping up again quite cheerily a while later? Marian's escaped death, so has Vasey, Robin has far too often, Guy too. After a while, though, the producers must have realised that you can't just nearly kill people - you've got to do the job properly and finish them off! I still don't think it should have happened all at once, though. Simultaneous death doesn't really add to the series, I think.
I hope Archer carries on - in my opinion, he's a far better character than Robin - who in the TV show really gets on my nerves, especially when he says something really obvious like: "But you forgot one thing - I'm Robin Hood," tosses his hair to one side and fires an arrow perfectly.
I'm glad someone else agrees about Isabella's dress - it's not just me! =)

[Marian]

Yeah, I know what you mean - like when Robin had the sword, ready to kill Vasey, and he gives a little speech, and then - oh, Isabella gets him. I was like "JUST KILL HIM!!"

I quite like the "You forgot one thing - I'm Robin Hood" stuff. lol!

[Isabella]

Oh no... not the inevitable near-death scene again! LoL, the Robin-fancying-himself moments make me laugh, if nothing else. Is the show actually carrying on, by the way? I mean, everyone's dead (including the title character) so it may have to go sci-fi and take place in the Land of the Dead or something! Life on Mars/Robin Hood... it's a possibility!

[Marian]

I reckon they might continue with Archer leading them...hmmm..

: Sci-fi Life on Mars Robin Hood sounds interesting!

[Sister Magdalene]

I can understand your anger, Becky and Elf, but I have to say WELL DONE ROBIN HOOD SCRIPT WRITERS! They did an excellent job, given the fact that Jonas Armstrong and Keith Allen were leaving the series. I suspect, after Jonas and Keith made that decision, Richard and Joe decided they'd move on to other projects too. Its damned hard when your lead hero and lead villain decide to call it a day and a writer has to find a way of, not only supplying an amazing episode, to send their characters off in a blaze of glory, but also to keep the majority of the fans happy.

But not all the fans are going to be happy, I can appreciate that. Everyone has their own idea about how storylines should work out and how characters should act. Time and time again, true die-hard fans are never pleased with the way that screen plays are written (I hear it every time a new Harry Potter film comes out!).

Robin Hood is different though. Its based on legend and, over the centuries, legend often gets blurred or glamourised. We all know the stories. In King Arthur's legend, the king marries the love of his life just to have her run off with his best friend. It brings down his kingdom as he battles his son begat from an incestuous liaison with his half sister! In Robin Hood, we know that Robin loves Marian, steals from the rich to give to the poor and gives his arch nemesis, the Sheriff of Nottingham, are really hard time! Those are the bones of it....everything else is up for speculation!

WHY would Marian forgive Robin when he was being such an utter cad with Isabella and Kate?

the ending would have been completely PERFECT if he'd actually grieved for her at all during the series.

I think the ending was absolutely perfect. When Tuck found Robin at the beginning of the series, Robin was in a dark place. He was morose and suicidal without Marian. Thank god, Tuck knocked some sense into him! His relationships with Isabella and Kate were, on the whole, innocent. Robin had this great love for Marian and nothing would ever change that. Then he met with this seductress, who knew exactly how to manipulate men. Sensual sexuality is a strong drug and, for a while, Robin succumbed (although I strongly believe they never consumated their relationship), probably pleased to remember that he was still a red blooded male! Robin's relationship with Kate was, on the whole, more innocent. She did all the running. I think Kate reminded him more of Marian and that was part of the attraction. But at the end of the day, neither Isabella or Kate could hold a light to Marian. His beloved wife.

It was great to see Lucy Griffiths back for the finale. She looked fantastic! What an outfit!

The death toll was unexpected, especially for some of the characters, but truth be told I couldn't see Guy carrying on. He was a brilliant baddie and then he turned good? It wouldn't have lasted!

So what now for the remaining cast? I think they will keep the ideal of Robin Hood alive. I've mentioned it before, but back in the 80s, when Michael Praed left "Robin of Sherwood", the scriptwriter did an excellent job with having another take on the mantle of Herne's Son. In that adaption, Robin of Loxley (yeah I know different spelling) was the son of a serf. When he was killed, Herne the Hunter chose Robert of Huntingdon to be his "son" and become Robin Hood....it was all cleverly done, I must say and I suspect something similar will happen with the current adaption. Archer is an unknown. He has come from nowhere. Whilst Little John, Much, Tuck and Kate will continue with Robin's good work, Archer will take on the mantle or, should I say it, the famous hood! Who knows? The Producers may feel that the series has run its course although the storyline of King Richard being captured and Queen Eleanor asking Robin to raise the ransom and deliver it to Richard's captors is a major one and I think they would like to do that one at least before they wrap the series up completely.

On the whole, I think the last episode delivered. I'm sure there was hardly a dry eye in every household in England when Robin said his goodbyes to his dearest friends and colleagues before wandering off to die alone. And Much, finally confirmation that you were and always would be Robin's best friend!

We've had an amazing three series of Robin Hood from the BBC. The actors have really dazzled us with their acting abilities and passion for the programme. And for that, I thank them! Whatever happens in the future, their work has inspired us all to come here and role play - so, afterall, they must have done something good!

[Isabella]

If I knew how, I'd set up a Life on Mars/Robin Hood proboard... though on second thoughts, maybe not! LoL. I hope Archer will carry on, but Robin said to Tuck: "I know you'll find a new leader," which leaves it pretty open as to who carries on. I wanted it to be Gisborne, but now he's dead. =( And he looked so much better in this series! I <3 his long hair and black clothing... he looks like he's just come out of a Heavy Metal music video, and it's a look I like!
On an unrelated note, Much removed his cap! LoL.. he has hair and it is brown, brown I tell you, not ginger! LoL...

[Sister Magdalene]

Jun 27, 2009 19:49:50 GMT Marian said:

Sci-fi Life on Mars Robin Hood sounds interesting!

Heck! It can't be any worse than "Demons" that ITV tried to foist on us!

[Marian]

Sue, I am definitley not denying it was a good episode. I thought it was fab - the script writers did amazingly with the fact that they knew they HAD to kill off two main characters, because the actors no longer wanted to continue. I'm not happy about the fact that all my faves are gone, but I can accept they had to go because of the actors wanted to leave. My rant is more about the fact that the actors had to leave - I think the script writers did pretty well with what they had to work with!

The relationship thing did annoy me though - for me they seemed gratuitous, but I do understand what you're saying Sue.

Overall, great episode, but so sad! And oh yes, Marian's outfit at the end - amazing!!
I'm thinking -- no-one lynch me! -- that at some point Marian's storyling may have to follow that of the series (ie death) in order to keep storylines moving. However, I plan on working out a big storyline for the board soon!

[Honeysuckle Herron]

When Marian said to Robin "I waited for you", did anyone else expect Robin to pull some sort of 'Oh shit' type face? Or was that just me?

Also, when they were burning Allan (so beautiful, at least they took the time out to grieve for him), was anyone else slightly pissed off that Kate just walked away? I thought it was rather rude of her. Even if she was going off to find the King. (akam running away to save her own ass.)

[Sister Magdalene]

I don't know, maybe it was guilt. She and Allan could have had a thing going (remember the Trip Inn when she pretended to be a floozy?) if she hadn't fallen in love with Robin.

Or perhaps it was anger. She didn't want to see them having to say goodbye to anymore of their band? It would definitely have brought back memories of her brother being killed.

Becky, yeah I can appreciate that. All the best characters have gone. I can't wait to hear about your storyline though.....sounds VERY exciting!

[Isabella]

Yeah, Mags, I've loved this series, too. I think the script writers did do a good job, considering what they had to go on, but I do think that this version of 'Robin Hood' just cannot be taken too seriously. It's a laugh and very entertaining - I do love it, but it's so historically inaccurate, it is only an entertaining TV show. So whilst I don't like the way that the plot's gone, I'm not a die-hard fanatic! LoL!
Yeah, I did like Marian's dress, too - she was very cute and magical. (Though I still prefer an evil gothic girl... hence I'm Isabella LoL! If you're evil, you have instant added attractiveness. Bad is good. LoL.)
And I loved 'Demons' on ITV1! Go Phillip Glenister, (especially in 'Life on Mars' and 'Ashes to Ashes'), and Richard Wilson was great in it (and 'Merlin', too.) I love them both. LoL... I know, I have an odd taste in TV shows.

[Tuck]

I've finally seen the final ep, and I would say, given the corners that they painted themselves into, they had left them litlle options. Plus, given the road they were beginning to take with new characteris in Series 3, some of the old cast members probably saw the writing on the wall and wanted to bail too. My original sadness was the road thety took at the end of Series 2. I didn't know if I was going to tune in for S3 aince my fave characters wouldn't be there and the violence they had done to the plotlines, but I did. In short, good finale, but they had already done maximum damage. Now its over, and the real reason I loved this story, the ensemble cast is gone. It will be interesting though to see what they conjure up for S4. Biut as far as I'm concerned its pretty much over .... no Robin, no Marian, no Will, no Allan, no Sheriff, no Sir Guy, no Nottingham .... how can there be a Robin Hood ..... and I so miss Carter!